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	<description>um, what do I write here?</description>
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		<title>By: Meble</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/11/16/tango-ui-for-web/comment-page-1/#comment-62012</link>
		<dc:creator>Meble</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2007 16:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this very good article … Can i translate this and insert on my site? … Thanks</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this very good article … Can i translate this and insert on my site? … Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Brautkleid mieten</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/11/16/tango-ui-for-web/comment-page-1/#comment-58157</link>
		<dc:creator>Brautkleid mieten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it makes absolutly sense to use standard application for User Interface. Only by this way you have the chance to optimize it step by step. Can you ever imagine, that in other branches - like for example automotive industrie - everyone try to construct an other motor for every new car ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it makes absolutly sense to use standard application for User Interface. Only by this way you have the chance to optimize it step by step. Can you ever imagine, that in other branches &#8211; like for example automotive industrie &#8211; everyone try to construct an other motor for every new car <img src='http://www.tigert.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-wink.png' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: kris</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/11/16/tango-ui-for-web/comment-page-1/#comment-4653</link>
		<dc:creator>kris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Feb 2006 18:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi, Ive got some question regarding using Your wallpapers on my website. I am doing now my band webpage and just by accident I found your wallpaper with dead fly on the blue background. My band is called &quot;muhy&quot; which in polish means &quot;flies&quot; therefore I was looking for something connected with a fly and your wallpaper seems to fit my vision of the website. Am I allowed to change it a little bit i put as a background on my webpage? please reply :) btw, nice work :)

cheers,
kris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi, Ive got some question regarding using Your wallpapers on my website. I am doing now my band webpage and just by accident I found your wallpaper with dead fly on the blue background. My band is called &#8220;muhy&#8221; which in polish means &#8220;flies&#8221; therefore I was looking for something connected with a fly and your wallpaper seems to fit my vision of the website. Am I allowed to change it a little bit i put as a background on my webpage? please reply <img src='http://www.tigert.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  btw, nice work <img src='http://www.tigert.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>cheers,<br />
kris</p>
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		<title>By: Bèr Kessels</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/11/16/tango-ui-for-web/comment-page-1/#comment-3385</link>
		<dc:creator>Bèr Kessels</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Dec 2005 11:18:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Trae
A common UI, or common ideas could be really interesting. Maybe we should therefore thing of setting up some freedesktop.org alike central place. But then for CMSes: freecms.org or so.

@Tigert: gnome vs kde. Lets try to keep that out of here. Since Im the european inbetween US folks Im a minority in pro KDE :). But really, KDE too has some very interesting ideas that can be ported 1-1 to CMS interfaces. I have sucessfully done so for some minor usability improvements for Drupal in the past. But again, we should avoid at all costs to make this general CMS interface idea, into another KDE/gnome war. We should try to find best of any worlds. OSx has some good HIG stuff that can be used for CMSes, Gnome has some, KDE has very good ideas, QT has interesting documents and theories about crossplatform interfaces, So has Java.
We can try to build on top of all that. 
KDE, for example had some very good reasons for not choosing Tango for KDE 4. It developed a theory and then designed icons and styles behind that. See http://www.oxygen-icons.org/ for more info.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Trae<br />
A common UI, or common ideas could be really interesting. Maybe we should therefore thing of setting up some freedesktop.org alike central place. But then for CMSes: freecms.org or so.</p>
<p>@Tigert: gnome vs kde. Lets try to keep that out of here. Since Im the european inbetween US folks Im a minority in pro KDE <img src='http://www.tigert.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . But really, KDE too has some very interesting ideas that can be ported 1-1 to CMS interfaces. I have sucessfully done so for some minor usability improvements for Drupal in the past. But again, we should avoid at all costs to make this general CMS interface idea, into another KDE/gnome war. We should try to find best of any worlds. OSx has some good HIG stuff that can be used for CMSes, Gnome has some, KDE has very good ideas, QT has interesting documents and theories about crossplatform interfaces, So has Java.<br />
We can try to build on top of all that.<br />
KDE, for example had some very good reasons for not choosing Tango for KDE 4. It developed a theory and then designed icons and styles behind that. See <a href="http://www.oxygen-icons.org/" rel="nofollow">http://www.oxygen-icons.org/</a> for more info.</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal Klein</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/11/16/tango-ui-for-web/comment-page-1/#comment-3242</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Nov 2005 11:14:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although this is just a mockup (a good one at that), I concur, seeing a Drupal theme for this in the future would just be awesome. :)

Tuomas, you might want to talk to the Drupal devels. ;-)

Cheers,
Pascal Klein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although this is just a mockup (a good one at that), I concur, seeing a Drupal theme for this in the future would just be awesome. <img src='http://www.tigert.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Tuomas, you might want to talk to the Drupal devels. <img src='http://www.tigert.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-wink.png' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Cheers,<br />
Pascal Klein</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal Klein</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/11/16/tango-ui-for-web/comment-page-1/#comment-3209</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 10:28:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>App icons. As in Evolution, Kontact, Firefox, Konqueror - the icons for these apps. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>App icons. As in Evolution, Kontact, Firefox, Konqueror &#8211; the icons for these apps. <img src='http://www.tigert.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pascal Klein</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/11/16/tango-ui-for-web/comment-page-1/#comment-3204</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:30:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, I think I might convey what I meant a bit more concisely -&gt; basically, although I suppose it&#039;s probably common sense, I think it would be important to keep application and program icons off the web interface, and use meta file icons, &#039;function&#039; icons and folder icons. :)

That&#039;s sounds better.

Pascal</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I think I might convey what I meant a bit more concisely -&gt; basically, although I suppose it&#8217;s probably common sense, I think it would be important to keep application and program icons off the web interface, and use meta file icons, &#8216;function&#8217; icons and folder icons. <img src='http://www.tigert.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile.png' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>That&#8217;s sounds better.</p>
<p>Pascal</p>
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		<title>By: Pascal Klein</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/11/16/tango-ui-for-web/comment-page-1/#comment-3203</link>
		<dc:creator>Pascal Klein</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2005 05:26:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d have to agree with Chris here. Once I get used to an icon theme, I can navigate through my entire desktop, even if there was no text next to the icons. I think some people might be confused if you have the same icons featured on a web site, especially if they are icons for programs (obviously not for something like Evolution or Firefox, but think perhaps like Muine or Rythmbox icon for an audio related thing on the website).

It wouldn&#039;t be too hard to overcome though.
Keep up the nice work,

Pascal Klein</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d have to agree with Chris here. Once I get used to an icon theme, I can navigate through my entire desktop, even if there was no text next to the icons. I think some people might be confused if you have the same icons featured on a web site, especially if they are icons for programs (obviously not for something like Evolution or Firefox, but think perhaps like Muine or Rythmbox icon for an audio related thing on the website).</p>
<p>It wouldn&#8217;t be too hard to overcome though.<br />
Keep up the nice work,</p>
<p>Pascal Klein</p>
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		<title>By: Chris Cunningham</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/11/16/tango-ui-for-web/comment-page-1/#comment-3190</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris Cunningham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:53:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m slightly concerned about using the same icons in both the browser and the apps running in it when they have different semantics. For instance, that delete icon isn&#039;t sending things to the system recycle bin, it&#039;s sending it to some folder in the application.

The aim of Tango was to provide a consistent user interface for desktop apps, no? Bringing web applications (which aren&#039;t integrated into the desktop) into the picture might confuse things.

Not that the icons aren&#039;t lovely of course (although the KDE Oxygen take on the navigation / refresh buttons is a little nicer in my eyes, so I hope it eventually gets integrated).

 - Chris</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m slightly concerned about using the same icons in both the browser and the apps running in it when they have different semantics. For instance, that delete icon isn&#8217;t sending things to the system recycle bin, it&#8217;s sending it to some folder in the application.</p>
<p>The aim of Tango was to provide a consistent user interface for desktop apps, no? Bringing web applications (which aren&#8217;t integrated into the desktop) into the picture might confuse things.</p>
<p>Not that the icons aren&#8217;t lovely of course (although the KDE Oxygen take on the navigation / refresh buttons is a little nicer in my eyes, so I hope it eventually gets integrated).</p>
<p> &#8211; Chris</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Wood</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/11/16/tango-ui-for-web/comment-page-1/#comment-3187</link>
		<dc:creator>Jon Wood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:28:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;maybe we should supply a set of XHTML/CSS pieces&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Please do! I&#039;m using the Tango icon set for a web application I&#039;m developing at the moment, and having standard UI components would be really good news.

If anything comes of this I&#039;d love to add Rails integration for common components, since it seems that most of the time spent on web development these days is getting the user interface right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>maybe we should supply a set of XHTML/CSS pieces</p></blockquote>
<p>Please do! I&#8217;m using the Tango icon set for a web application I&#8217;m developing at the moment, and having standard UI components would be really good news.</p>
<p>If anything comes of this I&#8217;d love to add Rails integration for common components, since it seems that most of the time spent on web development these days is getting the user interface right.</p>
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