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		<title>By: M-RES</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/09/22/and-they-call-this-an-information-society/comment-page-1/#comment-2458</link>
		<dc:creator>M-RES</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Sep 2005 17:18:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps the RIAA should be forced to label all DRM &quot;CD&#039;s&quot; with a large sticker stating that they don&#039;t conform to the CD standard and thus should not be purchased if you intend to play the disc in an industry-standard player (the same type which you will find in any PC running Linux or Mac, as well as HiFi standalones). I read from Slashdot that because of this non-compliance to the standards the RIAA aren&#039;t allowed to use the Compact Disc Digital Audio logo on any of the disc/packaging materials, but I say they should be forced to go this extra step proactively labelling to let us know so that we can make an informed choice when buying discs.

You remember in the 80&#039;s and 90&#039;s when they started labelling every other rap artist&#039;s albums with the &#039;Parental Advisory&#039; stickers... well maybe this should be the karmic comeback.

Screw the RIAA, I OWN a CD player... it&#039;s in my Mac!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps the RIAA should be forced to label all DRM &#8220;CD&#8217;s&#8221; with a large sticker stating that they don&#8217;t conform to the CD standard and thus should not be purchased if you intend to play the disc in an industry-standard player (the same type which you will find in any PC running Linux or Mac, as well as HiFi standalones). I read from Slashdot that because of this non-compliance to the standards the RIAA aren&#8217;t allowed to use the Compact Disc Digital Audio logo on any of the disc/packaging materials, but I say they should be forced to go this extra step proactively labelling to let us know so that we can make an informed choice when buying discs.</p>
<p>You remember in the 80&#8217;s and 90&#8217;s when they started labelling every other rap artist&#8217;s albums with the &#8216;Parental Advisory&#8217; stickers&#8230; well maybe this should be the karmic comeback.</p>
<p>Screw the RIAA, I OWN a CD player&#8230; it&#8217;s in my Mac!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Atom Bum</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/09/22/and-they-call-this-an-information-society/comment-page-1/#comment-2442</link>
		<dc:creator>Atom Bum</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 11:16:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>..Oh my. 

I was somewhat involved in the first wave of online music stores few years ago  and ÄKT/IFPI Finland showed some serious signs of retardness back then already. 

It&#039;s simple really - they never really got into the internet bandwagon in the first place and are now trying to make it up with hasty remarks and stupid, stupid decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>..Oh my. </p>
<p>I was somewhat involved in the first wave of online music stores few years ago  and ÄKT/IFPI Finland showed some serious signs of retardness back then already. </p>
<p>It&#8217;s simple really &#8211; they never really got into the internet bandwagon in the first place and are now trying to make it up with hasty remarks and stupid, stupid decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: blackrimglasses.com</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/09/22/and-they-call-this-an-information-society/comment-page-1/#comment-2437</link>
		<dc:creator>blackrimglasses.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Sep 2005 06:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] A Finnish Record Exec thinks mac users should just buy regular CD&#8217;s This is in response to reports that DRMed CD&#8217;s will not play in Mac or Linux machines. He deems the ability to play CD&#8217;s through a computer an added bonus, not something that is standard. See my previous post. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] A Finnish Record Exec thinks mac users should just buy regular CD&#8217;s This is in response to reports that DRMed CD&#8217;s will not play in Mac or Linux machines. He deems the ability to play CD&#8217;s through a computer an added bonus, not something that is standard. See my previous post. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Musings of a Chicagoan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2005-09-25</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/09/22/and-they-call-this-an-information-society/comment-page-1/#comment-2430</link>
		<dc:creator>Musings of a Chicagoan &#187; Blog Archive &#187; links for 2005-09-25</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 15:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Head of the Finnish music industry: &#8220;[W]e need to understand that listening to music on your computer is an extra privilege.&#8221; (tags: stupid as.hell music) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Head of the Finnish music industry: &#8220;[W]e need to understand that listening to music on your computer is an extra privilege.&#8221; (tags: stupid as.hell music) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Henry C.</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/09/22/and-they-call-this-an-information-society/comment-page-1/#comment-2429</link>
		<dc:creator>Henry C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Sep 2005 14:14:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow this is asinine indeed... I&#039;ve put up a lengthy retort to Tommi Kyyra&#039;s comment on my blog here: http://henryc.blogspot.com.

Do what I do, DON&#039;T PURCHASE ANY COPY-PROTECTED CDs! Sooner or later, even these recording industry idiots will get the hint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow this is asinine indeed&#8230; I&#8217;ve put up a lengthy retort to Tommi Kyyra&#8217;s comment on my blog here: <a href="http://henryc.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://henryc.blogspot.com</a>.</p>
<p>Do what I do, DON&#8217;T PURCHASE ANY COPY-PROTECTED CDs! Sooner or later, even these recording industry idiots will get the hint.</p>
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		<title>By: baroquedub &#187; Blog Archive &#187; When playing a CD becomes a &#8220;privilege,&#8221; not a right</title>
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		<dc:creator>baroquedub &#187; Blog Archive &#187; When playing a CD becomes a &#8220;privilege,&#8221; not a right</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 23:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] &#8220;Now, we need to understand that listening to music on your computer is an extra privilege. Normally people listen to music on their car or through their home stereos,&#8221; said Kyyr&#228;. &#8220;If you are a Linux or Mac user, you should consider purchasing a regular CD player.&#8221; (Translation via tigert.com) [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] &#8220;Now, we need to understand that listening to music on your computer is an extra privilege. Normally people listen to music on their car or through their home stereos,&#8221; said Kyyr&auml;. &#8220;If you are a Linux or Mac user, you should consider purchasing a regular CD player.&#8221; (Translation via tigert.com) [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Clive (London)</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/09/22/and-they-call-this-an-information-society/comment-page-1/#comment-2417</link>
		<dc:creator>Clive (London)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 13:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simon Howard (above) suggested that the recording industry believes listening to a CD is a privilege, implying that one has a right to buy a CD. In fact, being able to buy that CD is also a priviledge!

The recording industry started with records. It was a priviledge that those tracks and albums were then made available on audio cassette inthe 1970s. It was an extra priviledge that the same music was later made available, to an ungrateful public, on CD&#039;s. Much music has been re-released on each new technology that came after gramophone records. The marginal costs of production for CDs are tiny and the gross profits on them is grotesque.

Apple has shown the way with a genuinely integrated solution of hardware, application and distribution. I sincerely hope and believe that digital music, in the form of easily downloadable tracks, is the final cycle of new methods of distributing music. The music companies were too greedy and too lawyer-driven to develop this for themselves, as they should have.

According to Steve Jobs, these greedy corporates want to increase the prices for their wares on the iTunes site! This, despite the fact they have no marketing or distribution costs via this channel. Their gross profit is surely all profit. They don&#039;t know when they&#039;re on to a good thing.

The record companies desparately need to start thinking creatively, without all the lawyers, and long-term. They won&#039;t because they&#039;ve always had a proprietorial approach which has served them extremely well in the past, and they are not capable of change.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon Howard (above) suggested that the recording industry believes listening to a CD is a privilege, implying that one has a right to buy a CD. In fact, being able to buy that CD is also a priviledge!</p>
<p>The recording industry started with records. It was a priviledge that those tracks and albums were then made available on audio cassette inthe 1970s. It was an extra priviledge that the same music was later made available, to an ungrateful public, on CD&#8217;s. Much music has been re-released on each new technology that came after gramophone records. The marginal costs of production for CDs are tiny and the gross profits on them is grotesque.</p>
<p>Apple has shown the way with a genuinely integrated solution of hardware, application and distribution. I sincerely hope and believe that digital music, in the form of easily downloadable tracks, is the final cycle of new methods of distributing music. The music companies were too greedy and too lawyer-driven to develop this for themselves, as they should have.</p>
<p>According to Steve Jobs, these greedy corporates want to increase the prices for their wares on the iTunes site! This, despite the fact they have no marketing or distribution costs via this channel. Their gross profit is surely all profit. They don&#8217;t know when they&#8217;re on to a good thing.</p>
<p>The record companies desparately need to start thinking creatively, without all the lawyers, and long-term. They won&#8217;t because they&#8217;ve always had a proprietorial approach which has served them extremely well in the past, and they are not capable of change.</p>
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		<title>By: Windows Vista</title>
		<link>http://www.tigert.com/2005/09/22/and-they-call-this-an-information-society/comment-page-1/#comment-2410</link>
		<dc:creator>Windows Vista</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2005 05:12:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Windows Vista has massive DRM, thats great because windows is rubbish. I&#039;d switch to linux but windows is easier to use (and all my progs run on it). If there is more crap drm, I&#039;ll finally have enough motivation to make the switch.
Cheers Microsoft!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Windows Vista has massive DRM, thats great because windows is rubbish. I&#8217;d switch to linux but windows is easier to use (and all my progs run on it). If there is more crap drm, I&#8217;ll finally have enough motivation to make the switch.<br />
Cheers Microsoft!</p>
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		<title>By: AnXa</title>
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		<dc:creator>AnXa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 22:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, we have in Finland a very odd situation as the new copyright law is underaway and there was a big scandal of it being favorable for record companies and it was suprising that representor of record companies where in a council prepairing the law. Also one big insteresting thing was that if the law is accepted ISPs can be sued to court because you can deny them for accessing your program etc. and while user klicks the file and downloads it to computer it will be saved to ISPs server so it&#039;s braking the new copyright law. lol. :D One &quot;nice&quot; thing in that law is that you are not allowed to upload &quot;protected&quot; music to your mp3 player. Without talking about that only &quot;unprotected&quot; music is church music. Also one interesting point in this new upcoming copyright law is that it says that you can get a jail time from organizing a conversation about the cd protection systems. what ever that means. I have understood it that if you talk about cd/dvd protections in public you will be arrested and convicted of braking the law. Well life is like we are novadays saying about the shitty things.

And about that quote: &quot;how do we email that exec and tell him to go to hell (in finnish) ?&quot;

Well you can allways try this: Write your opinion in english and then add to it: &quot;Painu helvettiin&quot; (Go to hell) and &quot;Vitun mulkero&quot; (You fucking bastard).

I am pretty sure that you can find more of these from insultmonger (http://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/finnish.htm), but this is the translation. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, we have in Finland a very odd situation as the new copyright law is underaway and there was a big scandal of it being favorable for record companies and it was suprising that representor of record companies where in a council prepairing the law. Also one big insteresting thing was that if the law is accepted ISPs can be sued to court because you can deny them for accessing your program etc. and while user klicks the file and downloads it to computer it will be saved to ISPs server so it&#8217;s braking the new copyright law. lol. <img src='http://www.tigert.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-smile-big.png' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  One &#8220;nice&#8221; thing in that law is that you are not allowed to upload &#8220;protected&#8221; music to your mp3 player. Without talking about that only &#8220;unprotected&#8221; music is church music. Also one interesting point in this new upcoming copyright law is that it says that you can get a jail time from organizing a conversation about the cd protection systems. what ever that means. I have understood it that if you talk about cd/dvd protections in public you will be arrested and convicted of braking the law. Well life is like we are novadays saying about the shitty things.</p>
<p>And about that quote: &#8220;how do we email that exec and tell him to go to hell (in finnish) ?&#8221;</p>
<p>Well you can allways try this: Write your opinion in english and then add to it: &#8220;Painu helvettiin&#8221; (Go to hell) and &#8220;Vitun mulkero&#8221; (You fucking bastard).</p>
<p>I am pretty sure that you can find more of these from insultmonger (<a href="http://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/finnish.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.insultmonger.com/swearing/finnish.htm</a>), but this is the translation. <img src='http://www.tigert.com/wp-content/plugins/tango-smilies/tango/face-wink.png' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Le Blog à Celeri &#187; Archive du blog &#187; A-t-on encore le DROIT d&#8217;écouter un CD ?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Le Blog à Celeri &#187; Archive du blog &#187; A-t-on encore le DROIT d&#8217;écouter un CD ?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2005 21:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] D&#8217;où problème : que faire si on utilise un Mac ou un PC sous Linux ? Jusqu&#8217;à présent, cette question gênante était soigneusement éludée. Aujourd&#8217;hui, Tommi Kyyrä, porte-parole de la branche finlandaise de l&#8217;IFPI, ose le dire : &#8220;si les DRM gênent votre ordinateur&#8230; allez acheter un lecteur de CD normal !&#8221; Mine de rien, le fait de pouvoir écouter son CD passe de l&#8217;état de droit à celui de privilège, contredisant ainsi un des principes de la culture : celle de pouvoir être accessible à tout un chacun, sans distinction. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] D&#8217;où problème : que faire si on utilise un Mac ou un PC sous Linux ? Jusqu&#8217;à présent, cette question gênante était soigneusement éludée. Aujourd&#8217;hui, Tommi Kyyrä, porte-parole de la branche finlandaise de l&#8217;IFPI, ose le dire : &#8220;si les DRM gênent votre ordinateur&#8230; allez acheter un lecteur de CD normal !&#8221; Mine de rien, le fait de pouvoir écouter son CD passe de l&#8217;état de droit à celui de privilège, contredisant ainsi un des principes de la culture : celle de pouvoir être accessible à tout un chacun, sans distinction. [...]</p>
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