Gnome Startup Notifications..
To continue the ever-increasing trend of chatting via Planet Gnome, here's a comment to Bryan's nice program startup notification concept.
Bryan, I like the idea a lot, but I think in this case it should not be used when you start up an application from the menus, but instead for the case when you minimize the application window. That would make it more logical in my opinion, since you do not start programs to run in the bottom bar, they start into actual application windows.
I think the windows/mac "fade out (or blink) the menu with the chosen menu entry fading out a bit slower" might work nicely for starting though.
Gnome Startup Notifications..
To continue the ever-increasing trend of chatting via Planet Gnome, here's a comment to Bryan's nice program startup notification concept.
Bryan, I like the idea a lot, but I think in this case it should not be used when you start up an application from the menus, but instead for the case when you minimize the application window - then it "goes to the taskbar" - you could make a "box" from the application window title where it is in the actual window, then make the title, with an icon on the left side, jump into the taskbar. That makes it more logical in my opinion, since you do not start programs to run in the bottom bar, they start into actual application windows.
I think the windows/mac "fade out (or blink) the menu with the chosen menu entry fading out a bit slower" might work nicely for starting though.
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December 14th, 2004 - 23:15
I checked out that page, and yeah, that does look like some pretty cool eye candy. But how about we get consistent startup notification throughout the GNOME desktop first, and then make it look nice later? Only about half the launchers that I create actually do proper launch feedback — most of the time the user is simply kept guessing as to whether or not the program has been started up.
December 14th, 2004 - 23:22
I agree. I usually keep a cpu monitor around, just so that I can know when applications are starting up or not. Sad, but that is the most accurate way to do it.
Tigert, bravo on updating. I remember when your laptop-candy box was around for some very large values greater than Christmas, awhile back. ;p
December 15th, 2004 - 10:35
Yeah, of course startup notifications need to work. But that described “jump to taskbar” should be done for minimizing. Of course proper feedback is important, but it should also be thought out to make the correct impression to the user.
Jordan:
December 16th, 2004 - 10:41
I find that Metacity’s minimization effect is more than enough. Do we really need all this memory-hogging eye-candy?
While it looks good, and is definitely more suited to minimization than to app startup, I don’t know that it’s necessary right now. A higher priority should be to just get startup notification working with Nautilus’s Launchers as well as the rest of GNOME’s.
December 16th, 2004 - 13:36
Yeah, my real point was: startup notification is important. But the proposed animation would work better for minimizing, since you dont start stuff “to go into the taskbar”, but rather it will open up a window to the desktop. The idea is good, the effect is not ideal for the purpose.
Metacity does the minimize effect nicely already, yeah.
December 24th, 2004 - 00:07
Yaknow, I believe that I jinxed it by pointing out how good tigert’s been about updating.